Insight To Action Leadership Innovation Podcast

Humanity stands at the critical intersection where you can actively participate in designing destiny. Business has an important role to play as does each person. Episodes feature leaders in consciousness and in business who are restoring healthy relationships and regenerating Life's support systems by tapping into deeper levels of human potential. #spiritual literacy #business #consciousness #inspired #innovation Thanks to Mark Romero Music for the music.
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Mar 31, 2017

 Why does narrative and story ignite the power of the human spirit? How do you move through a difficult experience in life or work? Why is letting go of control so difficult?

In times when attempting to control your outer world results in fatigue, overwhelm and exhaustion, attending to your inner world restores initiative and strength. Narrative coach David Drake explains the difference between narrative and story. The conversation in this episode sheds light on:

  • Why does nobody do what I asked them to?
  • What is behind the drive to understand purpose?
  • What are the four fundamental human needs?
  • How can we contribute to each others flourishing as individuals and as an organization?
  • What happens to initiative in an organization where external control suppresses initiative? (and creativity)
  • How does narrative help executives communicate vision? Or strengthen brand?

Narrative coach David Drake is the author of Narrative Coaching: Principles and Practices for Bringing New Stories to Life. His personal mission is ‘to help create and spread new narrative methods that integrate personal and social transformation’. David has worked on narrative coaching, change and leadership initiatives for 70 organizations, including Commonwealth Bank of Australia, Google, Nike, PwC, Westpac and the Australia and US federal governments. Clients appreciate his systemic and innovative approaches.
He is the founder of the field of narrative coaching and the creator of the Narrative Coaching Labs for practitioners and Narrative Design Labs in organizations. David has trained over 10,000 people in 14 countries in his methods. He has started a global community of licensed Narrative Design Partners to bring this work to the world in new ways.
David is also the architect of integrative development, which brings together adult development and organization development in a unified theory of change. Narrative coaching is an integrative practice that can scale to any size. Dr David Drake founded and runs the Center for Narrative Coaching & Leadership in the San Francisco Bay Area.


The pop-punk track on this episode was contributed by @ChaseYourWords. The track is called ‘You and Me’. Thanks to lead singer Chris for providing this and the track on the previous episode.


Intro music is by Mark Romero of Mark is the former CEO of a semi-conductor company who saw the music. He now works with individuals and companies to restore coherence to their environments.

 Your Host!

Podcast host Dawna Jones specializes in providing transformation insights to companies, their leaders and to individuals seeking to evolve their skills to match the complexities of today.

Mar 17, 2017

“The world in which you were born is just one model of reality. Other cultures are not failed attempts at being you. They are unique manifestations of the human spirit.” -Wade Davis 

Wade Davis is an anthropologist, ethnobotanist, writer, photographer, filmmaker and explorer. National Geographic named him as one of the explorers of the Millennium. Described as “a rare combination of scientist, scholar, poet and passionate defender of all of life’s diversity”, Wade’s work has taken him to East Africa, Borneo, Nepal, Peru, Polynesia, Tibet, Mali, Benin, Togo, New Guinea, Australia,

Davis holds degrees in anthropology and biology and received his Ph.D. in ethnobotany from Harvard University. 

In this conversation with Dawna Jones, Wade explains the mind-blowing (Dawna’s words) sophistication of indigenous skills to navigating across open seas without the instruments we rely on today.

Their conversation covers:

  • Perception: Is a mountain a hunk of rock or a deity that directs destiny?
  • Science: Why race is a fiction and how we are all brothers and sisters
  • Empathy: The secret skill to working with different and diverse world views
  • Diversity: A more elegant definition of diversity from an anthropologist viewpoint that HR can use to replace targets and quotas
  • Descartes: How we became separate in our relationship with Nature, the high cost to all life and what we can do about it
  • Psychedelics: The contribution of mind expanding adventures to seeing reality in a different light
  • Culture: How cultural myopia prevents us from seeing and hearing others
  • The Great Hope for what lies ahead
  • The Great Lie Trump sold the middle class
  • What leaders and entrepreneurs can learn from ancient Polynesian Wayfinding skills
  • Why Wayfinding in complex environments is more accurate than navigating from Point A to B

The whole conversation was sparked by Dawna’s read of The Wayfinders: Why Ancient Wisdom Matters in the Modern World published in 2009.

Also in this episode is an artist-owned track from pop-punk band @ChaseYourWords. Track is called ‘Here to Stay’.

Intro music is from Mark is the former CEO of a semi-conductor firm. His music generates coherence in listeners.

Your host is Dawna Jones:

Mar 3, 2017

The costs of management are a significant factor in the search for better organizational designs and management structures. Holacracy One started in 2007. Ten years later is following the 500+ companies that have implemented Holacracy to pick up on the legal and people side needed to balance the structural implementation of Holacracy. Tom Thomison, a co-founder of Holacracy One, and Dawna talk about:

  • The value of a distributed authority system,
  • What Holacracy is and is not,
  • The value of embedding an entrepreneurial stance to doing the work,
  • Is profit a purpose or a measure?
  • What does purpose of business mean and how does it replace Mission, Vision and other traditional elements,
  • The pivotal question for moving from a traditional model to a self-managing system,
  • The need to re-envision a world without employees
  • The importance of Like-purpose (not like-minded) diversity.

A seasoned entrepreneur and business builder with more than 30 years of experience, Tom Thomison is a recognized leader in self-organization practices and methods. In 2007, he co-founded HolacracyOne, LLC to further develop and mature Holacracy®, now a gold-standard replacement for conventional management hierarchies. 

 Tom is currently a Founding Member and Partner at, an organization focused on the creation of necessary legal, financial and social structures to further support self-organization and the new world of work. Tom is active as an entrepreneur having been involoved five early stage companies prior to and he has served as advisor to several startups and remains a Partner and Investor at HolacracyOne, LLC.

In the Evolutionary Provocateur podcast on iTunes Dawna interviewed Anna McGrath on what Holacracy is and its implementation in Zappos. Learn more about self-managed companies on the Evolutionary Provocateur podcast and the Insight to Action podcast.

Much thanks for the artist owned music track at the end of the show to Robert Grey, graphic designer at Brooks Grey Design. The track is called Dedication. You’ll find more of his music on his site. 

Dawna Jones is the host for the Insight to Action podcast. Dawna works with companies and leaders to adapt their decision-making and deepen leadership skills to make the bold, creative decisions to evolve and design tomorrow. She's the author of [Business] Decision Making for Dummies, and a monthly blogger for Great Workplace Cultures on the Huffington Post . She’s contributed a chapter on the new purpose of business to an upcoming book by Ervin Laszlo called Who are We and Why are We Here. See Mastering the Split in Consciousness